When I am away from my garden I read. I read a lot about the ivy and how to get it out. I have a favorite starter site . I like reading about other people struggling with same problem. It does not look that bad any more. I don't feel like such a wimp when others report thorn rotator cuffs and such. So far I only can report blackberry thorns stuck in my fingers and some swet dripping down my spine.....
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